Whispers Forum

DEBATE (1)
In BJP Saroj Pande and Smriti Irani are rising stars.
R K Joshi
DEBATE (2)
In my view Supriya Sule. She would go very high.
Girja Shankar
Do we need these conventions ?
1. Every minister, judge, senior official needs to be provided a house, a chauffeur driven car, free petrol, first class/business travel on leave travel, bungalow peons etc. Tax payers pay for this. In the US and Europe, no such privileges exits.
2. Normally, these elites are addressed as " sahab" and "mem sahab", a colonial hangover. Terms like "hazoor", "hakim", "hukum" are also used. "Lordship", "Your honour" common in judiciary.
3. We still have "peons" and "orderlies" who wear a theatrical dress with cummerbunds and head gear straight out of a British era film. They are required to carry "sahabs" briefcase ( weighing 1.5 kg) and lunch box. Sometimes they hold an umbrella for the sahab or mem sahab. This species can't be seen in the US or Europe.
4. We need VIP lounges everywhere. A VIP is not defined however.
5. House helps/chauffeurs/peons are 'untouchables'. They can't sit on a chair/sofa. They have to always keep standing.
6. For VIPs, normal rules/regulations/conventions do not matter. As they say " the line starts from where they are standing".
7. All 'lowly' staff are addressed as 'तू' or 'तुम' not 'आप' even though he may be elder.
8. Typically, you won't get attention in a public place ( hotels, restaurants, shops in upmarkets ) if you speak in Hindi or देहाती english. The moment you speak praupah english you are attended to.
And many many more.....
P K Basu IAS (R)
No promotions in CSS cadre
There are no promotions in CSS cadre. Long pending promotion from US to DS level is acting as de-motivating element amongst the cadre. There are around 100 vacancies at the level of Dy. Secretaries in various Ministries.
GB
Retirement Age in Central Government
Instead of thinking to decrease retirement age, the otherway would be that Government should announce that whoever has crossed 56 years can take VRS and their basic for pension and other purposes will be calculated what their basic would be at the actual time of retirement, i.e, 60 yrs of age. Certainly, many would avail this benefit. After this, the government should instead of filling the existing vacancy, appoint DEO at the lower level. This will also enhance the job opportunities.
Pankaj Kumar

(DEBATE 1)
Poonam Mahajan is the lady who believes in fighting with courage in difficult times with a smile on a face as according to her every challenge is an opportunity.
Dr Krishna Jain
DEBATE (2)
Aparajita Sarangi will prove her mettle.
R N Padhi
Govt should form Ram Temple trust carefully
It is said that the trust for Ram temple would include scholars and historians. Well from experience we find that most so called scholars and academicians are leftists pretending to be academicians. The government needs to be extremely careful in its nominations and not repeat the mistakes done in nominating many bureaucrats/ retired ones, who are blatantly anti government and some actively trying to sabotage from within
S Chatterjee
Alok Verma and Lavasa on same page
Yes of course they are on the same step, ready to be pushed down to darker depths. This is the only prize they will get for opposing the sycophants of Narendra Modi.
Mohd Ayoub Ashfaq
Alok Verma and Lavasa on same page
Though might is right, such a practice will definitely affect the moral of the senior officials in all the organs of govt offices.
Kumar
Alok Verma and Lavasa on same page
Honest officers are discouraged and face the heat. Double standards.
Yogesh
Alok Verma and Lavasa on same page
Vindictive attitude of Delhi sultans.
P N Badhri

DEBATE (1)
Nusrat Jahan is an upcoming politician who is the most glamorous and talented among the politician identified by the whispersinthecorridors.com who is a perfect combination of beauty with brain.
Girish Parmar
(DEBATE 2)
Smriti Irani is the one politician in the list who needs no introduction as she has emerged from Television world to the world of decision makers who rule the hearts of 130 croce people.
Khushbhu Garg
“Let there be no Miscarriage of Justice”
Apropos Whispersinthecorridors.com’s political News dt Nov 12,2019 : "After demolition in 1992, the then PM Narasimha Rao had publicly announced that the damaged mosque would be re-built; but, even after 27 years, the Congress taking a complete U-turn did nothing "
Some noteworthy points about funding.
The cost of rebuilding the mosque at the allotted site must be met by the Congress. On the same analogy, the cost of building the temple should be borne by the BJP- VHP. Due to secular credentials of the Constitution, taxpayers’ money cannot be utilized on religious activities. The issue relating to source of funding must be settled.
The alternate plot of land (5 acres) in a prominent area in Ayodhya, should be allotted free of cost by the Centre for constructing the mosque. Similarly, no cost could be charged for handing over the ownership of the Ayodhya land for temple construction.
Let us also have a look at other implications of SC’s verdict .
The Apex Court while settling the Ayodhya title suit, termed the demolition of Babri Masjid as a crime that “shook the secular fabric of the constitution”. This is a serious indictment by the highest court ,entailing punishment to the guilty from 2 to 5 years imprisonment.
It may be recalled that eight leaders like LK Advani, MM Joshi, Uma Bharti and Vinay Katiyar, Ashok Singhal, Giriraj Kishore, Vishnu Hari Dalmia, and Sadhvi Rithamabara, were charged with promoting enmity and hatred through “false and mischievous news”.
Let us ignore those who were held guilty but are no longer alive to receive the punishment. These are: Bal Thackeray, Giriraj Kishore, Ashok Singhal, and Paramhans Ramchandra Das. Some were given Constitutional assignments to provide immunity against legal proceedings. Kalyan Singh was a prominent beneficiary.
The Allahabad High Court ( Lucknow Bench) ordered dropping of charges of criminal conspiracy against L K Advani, M M Joshi, Kalyan Singh, Uma Bharti, and others.
The UP government has asked for extension of time till April 2020 to wind up the case.
Special judge S K Yadav, who retired on September 30,2-019 was granted extension till completion of the trial and the delivery of the Judgement in the Babri Masjid case.
Even his extended term was over on Nov 9,2019,the day of Judgement.
What Course of Action is needed in the given circumstances :--
( a) Having regard to Supreme court's reiterating serious indictment terming demolition of Babri Masjid as a Crime, the authorities could consider re-opening all cases, if legally tenable, including those closed by District court and Allahabad high court on technical grounds.
(b) Further, in order to avoid miscarriage of Justice, the progress of proceedings must be monitored by Supreme Court that has made scathing observations.
(c) A new District judge must be appointed with directions to complete the proceedings and pronounce punishment to those who are having a free run despite being charge -sheeted by CBI. It was unjust and unfair to utilize the services of a judge who was granted extension beyond superannuation. Patently wrong per se. There is no intention to caste aspersions on court’s sense of fair play and justice. However, appointment of a new judge is considered essential to dispel suspicions, if any, from the public mind in a highly sensitive case like this.
(d) The entire case must be completed on priority under Supreme Court's monitoring.
A K Saxena (A former civil servant )

DEBATE (1)
Dimple Yadav in Indian style.
Asit Ganguly
DEBATE (2)
Priyanka Gandhi is first choice
Amit Nagar
Retired CPWD employees discriminated
The present BJP Government is encouraging to boost up the tourism industry, but while going to book the CPWD holiday homes, it is found that the retired central Government employees can book 30 (thirty) days in advance from the check in date, while serving central government employees can book 60 (sixty) days in advance from the check in date. It is often found while booking of CPWD holiday homes that they are already booked by the serving government employees, as they get 60 days time to book the same, while retired government employees are denied of the same as during the previous 30 days all the holiday homes are booked. The Government should consider few points that after the retirement from the government service a person usually spend time traveling the spiritual places or to a hill station or seaside town or city for refreshment with their limited pension, while serving government employees while on tour or LTC get reimbursement of his tour expenses including hotel bills (while on official tour), etc. who need not to bear this hefty expenses for accommodation. Therefore it would be very helpful for the retired government employees if the booking of CPWD holiday homes / Touring Officers hostel accommodation should also be open for retired government employees prior to 60 days in advance from check in date.
Kalyan
Bi elections in Karnataka- Who will bear the cost ?
The Supreme Court has upheld disqualification of 17 MLAs who defected from their parent parties, but allowed them to contest again. In fact, the re election has been thrust upon the State by these people, but the financial burden would be imposed on the State exchequer and indirectly on its people. Why ? The Supreme Court should also have addressed this issue in its order. Either the parties to whom they have joined should foot the bill on all administrative and other expenses or the individuals should bear the burden on holding these re election in 17 assembly constituencies. Public is not at fault.
Raj Kumar Thakur

SURVEY (1)
Priyanka Chaturvedi is a dynamic politician. It won’t be wrong to call her fire brand politician as she is of the belief that truth must be said no matter what the result.
Sweety Chaudhry
SURVEY (2)
My rank of most talented and glamorous politician would be Nusrat Jahan, Smriti Irani, Harsimrat Kaur Badal and lastly Priyanka Gandhi.
Rachna Sharma
Black Money
Generation and Remedies Black Money is generated due to evasion of various taxes which are due and are supposed to be paid to the Government and not paid. Excess cash in circulation is also one of the reasons for generation of black money. There are many other reasons also. Cash is generated also due to tax exempt institutions like NGOs, Trusts, Welfare Organisations, Educational Institutions etc. These organisations are involved in social activities are serving society at large. Now time has come these organisations can serve the country also by paying the required taxes if the provision of tax exemption is withdrawn. Now it becomes necessary to consider the withdrawal of tax exempt list and bring them in tax net thru an Amendment in Income Tax Act 1961 and other relevant tax provisions. Now a days lot of cash is being seized from individuals, trusts, institutions etc. which is unaccounted wealth. The best way to overcome these problems is withdrawing of high denomination notes i.e. Rs. 2000 note and Rs. 500 note in specified time frame and in phased manner like Rs. 2000/ not in six months and Rs. 500 note in a year time. It should be done with full public knowledge that high denomination notes are being withdrawn. There should be restriction in the limit of cash transactions. No cash transaction of more than Rs. 10,000, all other transactions either digital or using plastic cards. Let all bank account holders are issued plastic cards like Rupay, Visa etc so they can do their transactions using these cards. Luckily we have some one who can do it. It is anticipated that if these two steps are followed, it may reduce the generation of black money and also corruption. Let these two points are considered and debated at the highest level and come to the logical conclusions to reduce the generation of black money and corruption. All the best.
Naveen
Engaging Retired Officers better than lateral entry
This is better option for engaging the Retired Officers rather than appointing lateral entries as the retired officers have a better Knowledge of Government working.
R Rao

SURVEY (1)
Supriya Sule is best.
S P Goel
SURVEY (2)
Saroj Pande is a rising star in BJP.
Manoj Verma
Well summarised !
Well summarised by N K Singh. While Police Personnel are bound by conduct rules, what about Lawyers ? They are not bound by any Law, rather they consider themselves LAW !! There is a strong nexus of lawyers with Judges. So one can not expect fair and objective finding by the Judicial officer appointed for this purpose. Why not a FIVE member committee consisting of Eminent Citizens of the country look into the incident and make recommendations ? Strict punishment should be given to all guilty individuals.
S Gopal

Survey (1)
In my opinion, Mahua Moitra has emerged as glamorous and talented politician among women politicians in Indian politics. She is not just a pretty face. Moitra rocks the Parliament with facts and figure drawing all attention of House to her.
Sunil Kumar
China cracks down on gaming
Recognising the addiction to online gaming, especially among teenagers/ school going children, China has rightly come down heavily on gaming by enforcing tough rules. I wish something similar is done in India too as here also addiction to online gaming has reached dangerous levels especially among teenagers. To start with, how about disabling internet from 10 pm to 9 am.
Subramanian

Survey (1)
Nusrat Jahan and Krishna Gaur are most glamorous and Smriti Irani and Priyanka Gandhi according to me are very talented.
Ashok Rastogi
Survey (2)
Being glamorous is one thing and talent is something else. But one woman politician who fits in both the categories is, no doubt, Nusrat Jahan. Next in line is none other than Priyanka Gandhi.
Syed Nasir Ali
Why blame your defenders ?
I have been involved in interviewing candidates for the civil services. I find there is still a huge interest amongst youngsters to join the civil service and there preference is the IAS and IPS. The candidates are bright students, innumerable engineers, doctors, PhDs. Why are they flocking to these two services ? This seems a bit contradictory to me as whomsoever I meet, she or he is immensely critical of these two services. Politicians say that they would have taken the country on a 10% growth path but for these IAS officers. Similarly, they claim that the IPS is not dedicated. Journalists also think likewise. Business people say Indian bureaucracy is the worst in the world. Judges routinely admonish the IAS and IPS. Scientists say that India would have had at least two dozen Nobel prize winners, if only the IAS did not interfere. The army man thinks that the IAS and IPS should be scrapped.
So out of about 25 crore families in this country, it seems that about 99% do not have a kind word for the IAS and IPS.
The contradiction arises because these IAS/IPS aspirants come from these very families. We have family members of politicians. Jagannath Mishra's son was in the civil service. Bhagvad Jha Azad's child joined the IPS. Most of the journalists have appeared in the Civil Services exams. I had many batch-mates who came from business families. Judges families have produced many IAS/IPS officers. How can this be ?
When people criticise the IAS and IPS, I feel they forget to analyse the matter after examining the facts. Let us see how. Take businessmen. They find it much more easier to deal with the neta. Matters can be settled with little bit of give and take. In comes a bureaucrat and spoils the fun. He has the dirty job of pointing out the constitution, law, rules. He has taken an oath to do that.
An Honourable judge was once very surprised when I told him that I had not attended the marriage ceremony of my Chief Minister's son as " I do not socialise with such people." . The surprise was more as some members of the judiciary had attended. People think that IAS/IPS officers are sycophants of netas and 'brothers in arms' with them. They just presume things. Once a scientist friend wanted me to book the Constitution Club for his daughters marriage. I said only an MP can do that. He said " That's why I am asking you. You must have many MPs.". I explained to him that I did not know a single MP. He clearly did not believe me and thought I was just giving a lame excuse to avoid helping him. See the misconception? On another occasion, an Honourable judge visited my house and was surprised to see the simple furniture and me serving him tea. He asked " Don't you get an allowance of Rs 1,50,000 to furnish your house and some bungalow peons?". Another misinformation. The general belief is that IAS/IPS officers 'enjoy' at the tax payers expense.
With lot of expectation we had put a retired army brigadier in charge of an agriculture institution in agriculture. He could not run it and left. In fact, there were serious problems during his tenure. Thereafter, we appointed another man. Not only did he turn in profits but successfully merged it with a larger CPSU and earned huge profits. So, there are black sheep everywhere.
I can go on and tell you stories from members of other walks of life. But the crux is that the IPS and IAS are the only two services facing the line of fire of corrupt netas. The rest, who do not have to deal with them, can lecture them and hide in their boroughs. An immensely hyped professional from the private sector once tried his hand at running Air India. Proved a disaster and ran.
So anyone next time criticises the IAS, make him a Secretary/Joint Secretary to a stalwart 'standard' minister like Lalu Prasad or Maran and see the results of the chemical reaction. If a guy critises an IPS, ask him to be SP of a district for 24 hrs or ask him to face stone throwing mobs in Srinagar or drive through Naxal infested jungles. Insure him against myocardial infraction before that.
So, the point I think is that they all know that the job is tough and requires lot of IQ, EQ, raw courage, ingenuity, diplomacy, cunning and above all, love for and dedication to the country, to be an IAS and IPS officer. But they do not have the courage to call a spade a spade and demand electoral and judicial reforms. They chose the easy option of blaming the IAS and IPS because these guys do not have the power to put you behind bars.
The truth is that while the army protects us from external enemies, the IAS and IPS protects us from the internal ones.
P K Basu IAS (Retd)
Unanimous decision on Ayodhya
SC has made a fine unanimous decision on Ayodhya. After centuries, the ghost of Babar is removed from India. Full marks to our forefathers for not losing their faith in Hindustan - the homeland of secular Hindus for over 5000 years plus. Time to rebuild a modern India economically and militarily strong. The Honourable SC has laid out a clear path today by its fine unanimous judgement. Jai Hind.
Devindra Sethi

SURVEY (1)
In my my view only Priyanka Gandhi.
P Raghvan
"Profligate ruling dispensation, Misplaced priorities, Wasteful expenditure"
Apropos news item on ' Shifting PM's house closer to South Block ' in TOI , dated Nov 3,2019.
The selected Gujarat-based architect wants PM's house to be shifted near South block. This means razing of several bungalows and offices in Lutyens Delhi.
What happens to present PM's house on which crores of rupees have been wasted including building an underground tunnel upto IG international airport and helipad.
PM Modi rarely uses his present bungalows, anyway, being mostly abroad or out of Delhi
I suggest both PM's office and residence involving cluster of bungalows, may be built near airport.
One facet of PM's overall personality startles every one.
How could one with a humble background is so self-indulgent with passion for living a luxurious life style.
Scant or zero concern for poor tax-payers' money. No austerity, no simplicity.
On same considerations, PM's obsession for revamping Central vista complex at an estimated cost of Rs 10,000 crores (Completion cost will be many times over) raises suspicions about pressures of builders' mafia.
Was the RBI compelled to transfer Rs 1.76 lakh crore of its surplus reserve to the government to undertake such activities of tertiary importance, bypassing priorities like roads, national highways, hospitals and other socio- economic schemes/projects. Investment is also needed for development of UTs of J&K, Laddhak and finally PoK after its annexation
Nation wants to know, how funds are going to be utilized ?
A K Saxena (A former civil servant)

SURVEY (1)
“Finding Beauty and Talent in same Woman, is rarest of the rare combination”
No single woman politician in India is fortunate enough to be endowed with twin qualities of talent and glamour. Brain and beauty are antithetical. I have still made an honest attempt. Nusrat Jahan, the newly elected MP from TMC, could be rated as the most glamorous, progressive, open-minded leader-cum-actress.
No intention to hurt any one out of 30 women shortlisted by WIC.
A K Saxena (A former civil servant)
Who will be Member of ITAT ?
In addition to IRS officers, few members from the Chartered Accountant fraternity possessing high degree expertise in Direct Taxes and who are in active practice for more than 15 years would also appear in the list of appointment this time.
The shortlisting as well as the interview was too tough and was conducted in highly professional manner exhibiting the high standards and transparency too. I wish one and all my fraternity members who applied, might appeared for interview.
Ajay Agrawal
Are the Delhi police really innocent ?
Originally Answered: What is the actual reason behind the cop-lawyers clash in Delhi ? Are the Delhi police really innocent ?
I have already summarized the facts elsewhere on quora so I'll take it as read.
The parking in front of the lock up by the erring lawyer was not only illegal but was also a security hazard . So the constable on duty was rightly miffed. The lawyer with his own sense of entitlement must have been upset by his rudeness. His manhandling by the policeman is a misconduct but not an offence.
What the lawyers did then was :
Mob lynching
Assault on a public servant, an offence u/ s 353 ipc.
Assault on the State by storming the lock up.
Being lawyers, they were fully aware of this. They did it because they felt that they could get away with this because of tacit support of the court and the politicians of AAP and Congress.
Getting the information of the mob attack on the lock up, the DCP (?) came with force. There was firing resulting in three injuries. Infuriated by this, the lawyers went berserk across the city. They beat up any stray policeman they found. They burnt vehicles of civilians and beat them up for no reason.
They petitioned the High Court who, without hearing the other party issued orders of transfer of two officers and suspension of two policemen without any enquiry. The CP complied. Cases were registered against both side after the police force staged an 11 hour dharna before the PHQ.
Now coming to your question. ‘Are the Delhi police really innocent ?’ . Delhi police is a collective body. They are neither innocent nor guilty. Is any one innocent? Since Adam tasted the forbidden apple, none of us is innocent. However, on the basis of information available to me, some police men are definitely guilty of misconduct. Whether firing was justified? I am convince that it was. A judicial enquiry has-been ordered and the final position will only be clear then.
Are lawyers guilty ? IAM sure they are, of several offences. Offences have been registered and they will be decided by court.
However all this pales into insignificance before the macro issues. A man in uniform, OG or khaki, represents the authority of the state. An organised assault on this massive scale tends to destabilize the social structure and should be taken very seriously. In a ripple effect, it emboldens the other anarchist elements. Unfortunately some of them are sitting in the power center.
The second aspect of this is that the acts of the High Court and that of the CP have brought the ranks of Delhi Police to the verge of rebellion. This is indeed a very serious matter. The prestige and confidence in the the higher judiciary had been steadily waning. This will bring it lower still.
Finally, the CP has lost face and the ranks have shown a lack of confidence in him. This cannot be permitted. He will never be able to lead the force. It deepens the belief that chiefs of Police are mere pawns in the power game. And that the selection process is such that none can be expected to stand up with an erect spine. Has he erred? In my books, yes he has. Whether he is moved out or not, he is a lame duck.
Nand Kumar Singh, former DGP (1963-1997)

SURVEY (1)
Our pick for the subject line is: Smriti Irani - Both Glam & Talent ; Mimi Chakraborty – Glam ; Nusrat Jehan – Glam
Annand Dokania
SURVEY (2)
In my view only Priyanka Gandhi.
Hari Singh
ITO`S last hurrah
It appears the learned Prof. seems no knowledge about the Direct Tax functioning. The Tax Men don`t have powers to revisit cases more than 6 years. Revisiting the 10 year old cases their system will not accept. As a practicing CA, I will confirm it. Let the Prof. sleep peacefully. Even if his case of more than 6 years is reopened, they can`t do any thing.
AKR
“We want Kiran Bedi”
The demand for police reforms comes within the police force the slogan 'we want Kiran Bedi' comes within the police it shows the need of police reforms on urgent basis society doesn't need demoralized Police Force insecure Police Force it is not about one incident which happened at tees hazari Court somewhere the bomb which was waiting to explode since very long. The system in which our police force works we only get corrupt, insecure, incompetent policing.
Way back in 1902-03, the Fraser Commission recorded that “the police force is far from efficient, it is defective in training and organisation, it is inadequately supervised, it is generally regarded as corrupt and oppressive, and it has utterly failed to secure the confidence and cordial cooperation of the people.”
Bhupender Kumar

SURVEY (1)
Most glamorous Women Politicians
Krishna Gaur, Dimple Yadav, Mimi Chakarborty and Priyanka Gandhi in that order.
Partha Garg
SURVEY (2)
Nusrat Jahan is talented and glamorous actress who became Member of Parliament. She has mind of her own and speaks her thought without being guilty about it which is the need of the hour of the present day political class who does not study the subject but just say for the sake of saying. She is new but has spark which speaks volume about her talent. She is truly patriotic too.
Nidhi Jain
PM’s promisse of smaller government and larger governance nowhere
As per Whispers’ news item dated Oct 11, 2019, DOP&T has issued a calendar to cadre-controlling authorities of all central services, to complete their cadre reviews and send proposals to Cadre review division of that department. PM had promised smaller government and larger governance. He has totally ignored his promise of providing good governance and is creating more and more posts in the PMO without adequate workload, leading to centralization of authority. Ministries, divested of initiatives, await directions from the top office. All cadre review exercises are resulting in creation of extra jobs in all cadres, accelerated promotions without matching workload. Two union ministries like the Finance (Economic Affairs)responsible for Indian Economic Service (IES) and the Ministry of Statistics and Programme Implementation that controls the Indian Statistical Service (ISS) got undue benefit. Every Tom Dick & Harry got quick promotions through UPSC by relaxing Recruitment Rules for not having requisite number of years of services. There were more vacant posts available at higher levels but limited number of takers. Can the government of India not take the opportunity of drastically reducing the number of posts at higher levels, as promised by Modi government and improve the promotions prospects of job holders at lower levels. The format designed by the cadre review wing of DOP&T ,is absolutely flawed ,biased in favour of senior functionaries. In Min of Statistics, all jobs have been grabbed by the ISS Officers including Administrative. They are controlling their own cadres. PM, as in-charge of DOP&T ,is requested to review the defective model formulated by its cadre review wing and make it unbiased and non-discriminatory. The job of Secretary MOSPI, should be handled by an IAS officer and the Chief Statistician of India must report to him. This is absolutely necessary to remove the total chaos in that ministry, at present.
Narender Singh