Whispers Forum — 25 Apr 2019
DEBATE (1)
Getting so many outsiders as joint Secretaries through lateral entry is not a good idea.It deprives the direct recruits of career promotion opportunities by filling so many posts by those who have not gone through the rigours of Civil Services Exam and intensive training in LBSNAA and in the field to learn the ropes of Administration. How these nine persons selected now are real specialists as they do not seem to have worked in their respective field for which they are chosen. No details about their qualifications have been given barring a perfunctory information on the basis of which one cannot make out how much specialisation they have in the field they have been chosen for. How does a person working in FAO become a specialist in Agriculture and Farmers' Welfare ? Similarly, how a person running a business in the field of wind energy becomes a specialist in all aspects of Non-Renewable energy. A civil servant though a Generalist does acquire specialisation when working in a particular field for a number of years. The arrangement of having outsiders occupying such senior level posts would definitely create relationsip problems between juniors and seniors which ,apart from lack of motivation is not conducive to good governance.
Any way only time will tell whether this experiment will lead to any improvement in governance. On the face of it this fiddling with the civil services at this level appears to be a disturbing proposition. Getting well groomed specialists with impeccable credentials at Secretary level as in the past is another matter. Persons like Manmohan Singh, MS Swaminathan and a few others showed their worth and usefulness when inducted in Government Of India at that level. They were the real specialists in their respective fields. In any case we should not call these recruits as Lateral IAS or LIAS as one Prof who bragged about his being the author of this proposal by including it in BJP manifesto for 2014 election calls them as per his article in The Economic Times of today(22.4.2019) which I just happened to read. How this academician is an expert on administration and what gives him an authority to add this new service to the list of services we already have. The problem is that we pick up suggestion from casual sources without examining the pros and cons.
Aarti Khosla
No one is above criticism
It is surprising that several IPS officers have criticised Sadhvi Pragya for being critical of Karkare. Are they saying that he is above criticism because he got an award ! Where was their concern when some CBI officers, Verma et al had harassed and tortured Mani of MHA and Rajendra Kumar, a fellow police officer in Ishrat Jahan case! Our PM has given an apt reply to those who criticise her for being made a candidate , while on bail! Well the game of these elements of criticising the NDA on any ground, and turning a blind eye or having selective amnesia to the atrocities of UPA, is exposed as people have now seen through their game and these elements have absolutely no credibility. Next they will perhaps criticise the EC for having transferred some IPS officers in Bengal? The ECI was recently criticised by a bunch of bureaucrats, who feel that they still run the show, and have not reconciled to the fact that their days of patronage are over. I am sure we will get to see their impotent rage, on a whole lot of ther issues till the elections are over. Afteral they have to ingratiate themselves to their former masters, lest they be left out if their former masters come back to power, howsover remote and distant it may look.
S Chatterjee
Eight former DGP’s condemn Pragya’s remark
Bold gesture. They would do better to insist on EC taking serious action against the lady.
Paarth
Getting so many outsiders as joint Secretaries through lateral entry is not a good idea.It deprives the direct recruits of career promotion opportunities by filling so many posts by those who have not gone through the rigours of Civil Services Exam and intensive training in LBSNAA and in the field to learn the ropes of Administration. How these nine persons selected now are real specialists as they do not seem to have worked in their respective field for which they are chosen. No details about their qualifications have been given barring a perfunctory information on the basis of which one cannot make out how much specialisation they have in the field they have been chosen for. How does a person working in FAO become a specialist in Agriculture and Farmers' Welfare ? Similarly, how a person running a business in the field of wind energy becomes a specialist in all aspects of Non-Renewable energy. A civil servant though a Generalist does acquire specialisation when working in a particular field for a number of years. The arrangement of having outsiders occupying such senior level posts would definitely create relationsip problems between juniors and seniors which ,apart from lack of motivation is not conducive to good governance.
Any way only time will tell whether this experiment will lead to any improvement in governance. On the face of it this fiddling with the civil services at this level appears to be a disturbing proposition. Getting well groomed specialists with impeccable credentials at Secretary level as in the past is another matter. Persons like Manmohan Singh, MS Swaminathan and a few others showed their worth and usefulness when inducted in Government Of India at that level. They were the real specialists in their respective fields. In any case we should not call these recruits as Lateral IAS or LIAS as one Prof who bragged about his being the author of this proposal by including it in BJP manifesto for 2014 election calls them as per his article in The Economic Times of today(22.4.2019) which I just happened to read. How this academician is an expert on administration and what gives him an authority to add this new service to the list of services we already have. The problem is that we pick up suggestion from casual sources without examining the pros and cons.
Aarti Khosla
No one is above criticism
It is surprising that several IPS officers have criticised Sadhvi Pragya for being critical of Karkare. Are they saying that he is above criticism because he got an award ! Where was their concern when some CBI officers, Verma et al had harassed and tortured Mani of MHA and Rajendra Kumar, a fellow police officer in Ishrat Jahan case! Our PM has given an apt reply to those who criticise her for being made a candidate , while on bail! Well the game of these elements of criticising the NDA on any ground, and turning a blind eye or having selective amnesia to the atrocities of UPA, is exposed as people have now seen through their game and these elements have absolutely no credibility. Next they will perhaps criticise the EC for having transferred some IPS officers in Bengal? The ECI was recently criticised by a bunch of bureaucrats, who feel that they still run the show, and have not reconciled to the fact that their days of patronage are over. I am sure we will get to see their impotent rage, on a whole lot of ther issues till the elections are over. Afteral they have to ingratiate themselves to their former masters, lest they be left out if their former masters come back to power, howsover remote and distant it may look.
S Chatterjee
Eight former DGP’s condemn Pragya’s remark
Bold gesture. They would do better to insist on EC taking serious action against the lady.
Paarth