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June 2021 26 posts · page 2 of 3

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Wednesday, 16 June 2021

Whispers Forum — 16 Jun 2021

DEBATE(1)
Polticians and bureaucrats, both try to exploit each other but ultimately bureaucrats succeed.
Girja Shankar
(DEBATE 2)
More than two millennia back, the master of statecraft Chanakya aka Kautilya aka Vishnugupta stated “नैकं चक्रं परिभ्रम्यति” which translates as "you cannot move a chariot having a single wheel." The Constitution of India unambiguously reflects the noble objective of the founding fathers who clearly laid down that the legislature, the executive and the judiciary must function like components of a well-oiled machine for the proper functioning of our democracy. However, present-day India is radically different from what it was in the initial decades post-Independence. Idealism plummeted in the political sphere and now almost anyone with deep pockets can don the mantle of a parliamentarian or legislator. Politicians are not "all bad" but it is often observed that they pressurise the bureaucracy to have things done their way. In such a situation, an honest officer's choices are certainly not easy - either ignore, buckle or protest at the cost of transfer or suspension! A babu who acts like a puppet will definitely have the advantage of his or her other mistakes or graft being 'pardoned' but that hardly augurs well for public welfare.
Abhijit C. Chandra
Tuesday, 15 June 2021

Politicians use bureaucrats

DEBATE(1)
Misusing bureaucracy by the political class is a curse of the system. Who is responsible for this mess? Is the elite Service, a steel frame or a steel cage? None of these. Rather, a battered tin cage where the inmates willingly serve their political masters for getting quid pro quo benefits as rewards.
‘Give-and-take’, is fair play. Nothing like “Give-and-give” and “Take-and-take” relationships.
Politicians are past masters in manipulating bureaucrats to their advantage and after having done with, throw them as used tissue papers.
Sadly, the “maibaap” culture, is not possible without the active connivance of willing bureaucrats. Politicians’ are fair weather friends. They can stab anyone, anytime.
This has been the trend since independence, nurtured by the system that is flawed. People are bad, not democracy.
Things will be alright once the Rule of law is restored in the country and discretionary powers of the political Executive covering powers to transfer, give post-retirement placements to bureaucrats, are scrapped by the Supreme court as ultra vires the Constitutional Right to Equality and Rule of Law.
This has led to autocracy under successive dispensations.
A K Saxena (A former civil servant)
Indians in top positions in World for the first time
India under the dynamic leadership of PM Modi and able management of human resources of India by P.K. Mishra has, for the first time, Indians in top positions in World Bank like CFO, Chief Risk Officer, COO MIGA and Vice President in IFC. PMO sustained efforts for strategic human capital placement in International org has been well received and it will boost the demand for quality human capital from India in the International organisations. India is a donor in many organisations like GEF, GCF, CW, UN. GFDRR, IDA, UNIDO. Indian manpower placement will further the country's goals as a donor.
Ram Singh
Monday, 14 June 2021

Whispers Forum — 14 Jun 2021

DEBATE(1)
Bureaucrats should stick to their professional business and should not transgress all the bounds of decency at the behest of politicians.
Priyanka
(DEBATE)
Topic of discussion is ok but in reality both use each other according to their agenda.
Aniruddha Jain
Another victory for Modi Govt
Ms. Jagjit Pawadia has been elected as President of INCB, Vienna. She is a former IRS officer. This is another victory for Modi Govt and his Principal Secretary Mishra for placing India's human capital for the world with a vision. India should continue to push and help officers selected through competition on merit. This is a good sign after World Bank group success for India. IRS officers due to their hard work and commitment have been in demand with the international organisation.
Ram Kumar
Saturday, 12 June 2021

Whispers Forum — 12 Jun 2021

DEBATE(1)
Its both ways.Politicians use bureaucrats and bureaucrats use politicians. Depends on circumstances.
B M Chari
Promotion from state civil service to IAS is a special thing
Promotion from state civil service to IAS is a special thing for them. But in some states they take 7/8 years while in some other states as long as 17/18 years. So you should mention the year of recruitment to state service of these officers who get promoted to IAS. This will give the comparative picture for different states.
Kumar
Friday, 11 June 2021

Whispers Forum — 11 Jun 2021

DEBATE(1)
Politicians will dump the bureaucrats in cases of the latter's misdemeanours and misconduct in order to save the image of the Government. Otherwise, they are favourite with politicians.
Sunil Kumar
Great boost to officers ?
This is the right opportunity for the GoI to recruit personnel for CBI, central intelligence agencies and central police organisations through UPSC based upon a competitive exam and personality test. IPS officers should not be deputed at any cost to these organisations. Only officers directly recruited by these organisations should be appointed chiefs. That will be a great boost to the officers of the organisations listed above..
K Srinivasa Rao
Thursday, 10 June 2021

Whispers Forum — 10 Jun 2021

DEBATE(1)
It is limited no of pliable bureaucrats who use and align with politicians for petty gains . I have rarely seen an upright and competent officer being exploited or used by politicians.
A N Prasad
People trust you more than DoPT !
Imagine, people trust you more than DoPT. That day is not far, when they will need to consult you, since they have lost credibility.
Gen Dahiya
Wednesday, 9 June 2021

Whispers Forum — 9 Jun 2021

DEBATE (1)
Its both ways .In order to get good positions in the administration bureaucrats use politicians.
N D Joshi
DEBATE(2)
Infact, bureaucrats use politicians because the later have lack of rules and regulations.
Dinesh Gupta
Chances of WWIII looming large ?
I am in complete agreement with AK Saxena, it is almost certain India China and India-Pakistan are going to be the boiling points. The moment it starts Taiwan, Hong Kong, Iran. North Korea and above all Israel Palestine fronts will follow immediately. Chances of WWIII looming large as unipolarity is dead and balance of power is missing for too long with the collapse of USSR. Chinese would be paying a heavy price. Wish 5 provinces of China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau declare independence. This is only in the interest of India in long run, of course it would be a mad destruction infinite, not healthy for world economy
Harish Kumar
Tuesday, 8 June 2021

Whispers Forum — 8 Jun 2021

DEBATE (1)
Only politicians use bureaucrats. Bureaucrats have no choice but to toe the line to remain in power.
R D Srivastava
Post-retirement service offers to Govt. servants be discouraged
Post-retirement service offers to Govt. servants of UPSC should be discouraged owing to efficiency-conflict of interest & discouraging young citizens to prosper with dynamic age group Services to the taxpayers.
Rambha Mohan
Monday, 7 June 2021

Whispers Forum — 7 Jun 2021

DEBATE(1)
Though both politicians and bureaucrats use each other buit come politicians back close confidant bureaucrats to the hilt. Mamta Banerjee always stands by the bureaucrats when it comes to the crunch.
T N Bhattacharya
“Will WW-3 precede the 3rd wave ?”
US’ 90 days deadline to CIA for demystifying the Wuhan leakage is meaningless. The entire world is convinced of China's complicity. No escape for it.
The world cannot remain a mute witness. Fearing world-wide retaliation and negative publicity, China could be preparing for pre-emptive strikes at LAC and with Pakistan at LOC.
Ignoring the disengagement agreement with India , China has started mobilising war machinery along the LAC. Likewise, Pakistan after throwing the cease-fire accord with India to the wind, has escalated hostilities along the LOC with enhanced proxy attacks.
The joint conspiracy against India,is unquestioned with worldwide ramifications. Offensives could start anytime before expiry of 90 days.
A K Saxena (A former civil servant)
Saturday, 5 June 2021

“I want to serve the country”

Jai Hind Sir. My name Thakur Amit Chauhan. Sir, I am poor and I want to serve the country by getting recruited in the Army, sir recruit me Sir... Sir my height is 5 feet 10 inch my chest is 92 centimeter.. Bharat Mata ki Jay.
Thakur Amit Chauhan
Friday, 4 June 2021

Clear policy on CSS/CSSS promotion required

Government of India should come out with a clear policy of ending the impasse relating to CSS/CSSS promotion which is lingering on for years. Of late they have given some adhoc promotions, that too for a long wait. They should try to end the court cases smoothly and come out with a policy like other services are getting. Especially in this pandemic, CSS/CSSS are continuously working without any break and so many people have lost their lives. It will be a definite boost to the employees/officers which their promotions which are due is considered and issued on time. It is high time that the GoI should act swiftly. Otherwise our morale will be down. Take care of our cadres also please
Ramesh
Thursday, 3 June 2021

Discontinue extensions and post-retirement jobs

The policy of giving extensions beyond the age of superannuation and post-retirement jobs should be discontinued for all as it gives birth to ‘Yes-man’ culture. Officials don’t object to the wrongs of the government for fear of annoying them as they would then loose post retirement opportunities. This should apply to all - the Cabinet Secretary, Chief Secretary, Chairman of PSUs and Banks, CEO of the railways as also the Judges. No one is indispensable and the other officers awaiting these postings after long and dedicated service should get their due .
Ramesh Rao